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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 2, 2008 2:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: This week in historic GD

Seeking the all but unseekable vintage Grateful Dead:

Dec. 4, 1965 (Sat.) Big Nig's House - San Jose, CA
No setlist available.
San Jose Acid Test - first appearance as "The Grateful Dead"


Dec. 10, 1965 (Fri.)
Grateful Dead play The Fillmore

Rock Scully gives the following setlist info in his book "Living With The Dead":

12-10-65: Little Red Rooster, I Know You Rider, Midnight Hour, Early Morning Rain

Mime Troupe Benefit - first show as "The Grateful Dead"

(what is the difference between the 1st GD "app." and the 1st GD "show"?)



Dec. 11, 1965 (Sat.)
Grateful Dead play The Big Beat - Palo Alto, CA

The Beat Acid Test

Rock Scully gives the following info in his book "Living With The Dead":

12-11-65: Hog For You Baby--->Good Day Sunshine, Early Morning Rain

(note: "Good Day Sunshine", at least The Beatles' song by that title, was not released until August 5, 1966.)


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Thursday, Dec. 1, 1966: The Grateful Dead play The Matrix, in S.F.; 3 versions on the Archive, 2 diff. dates listed.
http://www.archive.org/details/gd1966-12-01.sbd.32800.shnf
http://www.archive.org/details/gd66-12-01.sbd.sirmick.26968.sbeok.shnf (possibly the best audio version, 3/5 stars)


article on Grateful Dead appears in S.F. Chronicle, 12/01/66 - pg. 46
(includes a picture of Garcia and Pigpen)

From a Jug:

"Jerry Garcia, left, and Pig Pen are a [?] two fifth of the Grateful Dead, the blues-rock group which will play a dance concert at 9 tomorrow night at Pauley Ballroom, University of California. Garcia is the lead guitarist, Pen is the lead singer and plays harmonica and organ. The group, which has been in existence for about 16 months, is one of the two most popular organizations in the Bay Area.

It evolved out of a jug band which included Garcia, Pen and Bob Weir, the Dead's rhythm guitarist. Phil Lesh is the bassist, Bill Sommers is the drummer."


Friday, Dec. 2, 1966: The Grateful Dead play Pauley Ballroom, at U.C. Berkeley
"Danse Macabre"
no tapes or setlist known.



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Poster: patkelleyPA Date: Dec 2, 2008 8:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

Bill Sommers?

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Poster: veblen Date: Dec 2, 2008 8:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

aka bill kreutzmann...bill sommers was the name on his fake id (draft card)...he used it since he was underage to drink and perform...

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Poster: He Live's Date: Dec 2, 2008 9:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

veblen is on the ball now isn't he?... i briefly scratched my head on that one... i was thinking that was one of the Music Store owners kids... that was the deal right... jerry worked at the music store and got to use some equipment to put together the Warlocks... but he had to let the music store owner's kids play in the group....

veblen, would you please clarify my foggy recollection of the sequence of events?


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Poster: veblen Date: Dec 2, 2008 9:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

don't know about being on the ball, I just recall reading this a few years ago:

POP QUIZ -- Q & A With the Dead's Bill Kreutzmann: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1998/01/11/PK13632.DTL
Steven Stolder---Sunday, January 11, 1998

"Q: Is it true that when the Grateful Dead first came together you were known to some as Bill Sommers?

A: (laughing) I hope I don't get in trouble for this one. We formed in Palo Alto when I was about 18 years old, and all except for Jerry and Phil Lesh were under 21. I was working at Behavior Research Labs out behind Stanford as a gofer -- I carried books for professors. So I got access to their equipment and made these phony draft cards. I used Bill Sommers as my alias. We didn't care about drinking. We just wanted to get into places where you could play music for people."

I guess the drinking came later...

funny, I recall when finding that would have taken an afternoon with microfiche...an afternoon if you were lucky...

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 3, 2008 4:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD


The Warlocks were formed in Palo Alto at the end of 1964 when Jerry Garcia, Ron "PigPen" McKernan and Bob Weir, who were members of Mother McCree's Uptown Jug Champions, decided that they wanted to play "electric" music. They added a rhythm section, Dana Morgan Jr. on bass and local drummer Bill Kreutzmann.
The first Warlock performance was in Magoo's pizza parlour in Menlo Park in May 1965. After a handful of performances Phil Lesh replaced Dana Morgan on bass.

Eventually, the band learned that another band was already called the Warlocks, a band led by Billy Gibbons, the future guitarist of ZZ Top. The Warlocks played their last show in November 1965 and thereafter adopted the name the Incredible Edible Ethical Tricycle (Weir's suggestion The Hobbits had been taken already just as well).

For the occasional show in later years The Warlocks were billed as Harvey Kurtzman & the Morlocks (formally Will Chicken Fat Elder & Die Greatful Heads).


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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 3, 2008 6:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

Informative posting! And I didn't even have to ask any questions...

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 4:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

Crap; like my response to CLIFF above, I got nothin for you...I do have the Acid Test sets, but these don't correspond to what you list above so I don't think I have anything you seek...damn.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 2, 2008 6:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

'Tis sad no one saved the '65 set lists or more of the '66 & '67 setlists...
Bill Wyman's book STONE ALONE includes '63-'66 Rolling Stones setlists he jotted down, pretty impressive.

Btw, WT, did you happen to catch the PBS show about Kepler's Books in Menlo Park?
They showed a photo different than the one we've seen (below) of the Warlocks playing at the bookstore, and of course the guy being interviewed said at the time they had no idea the band would become big with the kids...

http://www.kqed.org/arts/programs/trulyca/episode.jsp?epid=160084

I haven't seen a date (circa 1965) for the Warlocks gig at Kepler's, let alone a setlist.
(I don't have the Annotated Bibliography by David G. Dodd and Robert G. Weiner or a real Deadbase to peruse).

Also worth seeing was the pbs American Experience episode recently aired on the Summer of Love, and it's online to watch and save at the official pbs.org site:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/love/program/index.html

Nice footage of the Be-In from January '67, (in part 2)with sharp footage and the actual audio, about 13 seconds worth, of the Dead playing what sounds like the jam in Viola Lee, right?
& other cool clips of the GD appear later in the special.


Quicksilver Messenger Service
06/17/67 (Sat) Monterey International Pop Festival @ Monterey Fairgrounds - Monterey, CA

Set 1: Dino's Song, If You Live, Acapulco Gold And Silver, Too Long, Who Do You Love


Lineup: Jim Murray, Gary Duncan, John Cipollina, David Freiberg, Greg Elmore.

Source: Faren Miller


Quicksilver Messenger Service
06/17/67



04/01/65 (Thu) Menlo College - Menlo Park, CA

No setlist available.

Comment: Warlocks - Day uncertain

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05/05/65 (Wed) Magoo's Pizza Parlor - Menlo Park, CA

No setlist available.

Comment: Warlocks


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05/12/65 (Wed) Magoo's Pizza Parlor - Menlo Park, CA

No setlist available.

Comment: Warlocks



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05/27/65 (Thu) Magoo's Pizza Parlor - Menlo Park, CA

No setlist available.

Comment: Warlocks



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06/18/65 (Fri) Frenchy's - Hayward, CA

No setlist available.

Comment: Warlocks - Phil's first show



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08/01/65 (Sun) Fireside Club - San Mateo, CA

No setlist available.
Comment: Warlocks - possibly for three nights, days uncertain


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08/02/65 (Mon) Big Al's Gas House - Redwood City, CA

No setlist available.

Comment: Warlocks - day uncertain


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08/03/65 (Tue) Cinnamon A-Go-Go - Redwood City, CA

No setlist available.
Comment: Warlocks - day uncertain


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09/01/65 (Wed) In Room - Belmont, CA

No setlist available.

Comment: Warlocks played 5 nights a week for six weeks, dates uncertain

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11/01/65 (Mon) Pierre's - San Francisco, CA

No setlist available.
Comment: Warlocks -possibly three nights, days uncertain

(the '65-'66 gig/set list goes on, too long to paste here)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 2, 2008 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

No, CPW, I missed those, but will now track em down...just like PP...

Thanks man.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 3, 2008 2:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

save me a slice of Mister Magoo's papaya pizza?

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 2, 2008 2:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Dec 3, 2008 6:42am
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The Grateful Dead and a Light Show - How the hell can anyone beat that for the Jr. Dance ????

Freakin' Great!!

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Poster: high flow Date: Dec 2, 2008 3:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This week in historic GD

That is one kick-ass poster. Nice one.

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 2, 2008 5:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Decembers Children

It's it!

Tried to put all in the same box but it won't mesh with the text bits of info.

it's all about the Danse Macabre - the poster made me do it!

'66 forever 'n' ever!

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Poster: He Live's Date: Dec 2, 2008 7:46pm
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very cool.. and nice job on your photobucket page.... i have not noticed this feature before.

thanks.


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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Dec 3, 2008 7:31am
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it's got some fun video and photo editing gimmicks, I wasted a good 4 or 5 hours playin' with the band using the freebie version.

The pro version mainly loses the ads, and prob'ly lights cigars I guess.


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